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martha: at that time obviously the legacy of sphoap john paul was so -- the legacy of pope john paul was so huge. some those would be a transitional pope before the next person was ready to take over. we have a lot to go over with all of this in the course of the next couple hours. in the meantime we want to bring you this breaking news and fill you in on this situation unfolding in a courthouse in wilmington, delaware where we just heard shots have been fired. police are confirming there are several injuries in this case. the building is on lockdown. some people are still inside that building. we have a crew en route there. we'll bring you the latest information as soon as it becomes available. another day, another shooting story. the los angeles police department is offering a $1 million reward for information that would lead to the capture of a former police officer. christopher dorner accused of murdering three people in a rampage last week and included in those deaths is a police officer. here is video that shows dorner during this police training. we have not seen much of this
martha: at that time obviously the legacy of sphoap john paul was so -- the legacy of pope john paul was so huge. some those would be a transitional pope before the next person was ready to take over. we have a lot to go over with all of this in the course of the next couple hours. in the meantime we want to bring you this breaking news and fill you in on this situation unfolding in a courthouse in wilmington, delaware where we just heard shots have been fired. police are confirming there are...
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.//.john rydell... examines... the options... still being - consideeed... by lawmakers... &plawmakees... & just when you thought gas & prices...had staailized...here comes another spike. in fact...prices...at this b.p. station on st. paul street... - but gooernor o'mmlley...says the state...sttllneeds n - extra 800-million dollars a year...to properly fund transporratiin prooects. (ferguson) "we have to ffnd -3 wayssthat are reliable ffnding sources so that we caa move peopleein our region."so ttis ponsiiera bill which ould 3 tax..(miller) "everyooe would payya as tax, everybody would -3 pay a modest gas tax, a three &ppercent sales tax tacked on t -3 the wholesale level."that would mean...an extra ten...to 15-cents...a gallon.but ttat would only raise....n extra 300-million a yeer.so senate 3&miller....wanns to ggve local governments likebaltimore city authority to increase their gas tax even more.the proceeds...would goo ddrectly...to fund mass trrnsit. (mayyr) "balttmore ccty haa aken it of ovvr $100 million over the ass few years, we've lost in highwayy user revenue, w
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a moment ago we had a picture of wisconsin congressman paul ryan. had things gone differently on election night he would be sitting behind president romney but he is member of the house of receipt identifies. you see john kerry, long time senator from massachusetts and new secretary of state, a job many say he was born and bred for. you can see at the top of the any, the gallery. it's fascinating some of the people in the gallery. it's become now some would say a flag show, some would say a kind of theater that membe of congress, the first lady, they bring a variety of people to sit in the gallery. everybody from gabrielle giffords, the victim of a terrible shooting. here you see first lady michelle obama. somewhat interesting in her box, i don't see the person there, a young 20-year-old man named alan alaman who is an illegal immigrant from nevada. he is someone the country, he is one of so-called dream act people. he was brought to the country as a child. president has ordered that there be no deportation of any of those people who were brought to
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he was not john paul ii. john paul was such an immense figure. is that a fair point mr. moody is making? >> well, i think it is a fair point. i have nothing but the greatest admiration for john, and i think pope benedict knew that. what comes through about pope benedict is the humility in one interview he gave, long book interview, where he mentioned the possibility of resigning but he said i'm convinced there are great popes and small popes, and he was talking about john paul ii as a great pope, and himself as small pope, which is also strange because he is obviously a great intellectual. but he knew he didn't have either the energy or, if you will, the pizazz of john paul ii, the media satisfy iy. but what he wad was very genuine. he is a month in love with god, and a very humble one. i noticed on the trip to the u.s., and you see the stadium filled, and john paul would enjoy those as much as an actor enjoys a big crowd, and benedict was a little bit almost embarrassed. but there was something beautiful and endear about that. >> there were missteps and miscues along th
he was not john paul ii. john paul was such an immense figure. is that a fair point mr. moody is making? >> well, i think it is a fair point. i have nothing but the greatest admiration for john, and i think pope benedict knew that. what comes through about pope benedict is the humility in one interview he gave, long book interview, where he mentioned the possibility of resigning but he said i'm convinced there are great popes and small popes, and he was talking about john paul ii as a...
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benedict was the intellectual architect of john paul's papacy for 20 years. so in terms of substance, broad vision for the church, the two were clearly this lock step. but in terms of personality, john paul had a raw sort of freak of nature charisma that took the world by storm. benedict has always been a bit more of an acquired taste. widely admired for the keenness of his intellect. and when i've covered his foreign trips, what's interesting is that he often plays best as a cultural critic. a man who engaged in broad trajectories. doesn't generate the same kind of wild enthusiasm at the grass roots, of course, as john paul. >> certainly i can tell that from some of the visits i've done. the real enthusiasm for john paul, a first time pope had con cost to communist cuba and he was incredibly received. i polled pope benedict last year cuba and you could see that he was also very warmly received, but didn't generate the kind of adulation, if you like, the kind of mass cult following that his predecessor between. and from what i understand, it was that trip tha
benedict was the intellectual architect of john paul's papacy for 20 years. so in terms of substance, broad vision for the church, the two were clearly this lock step. but in terms of personality, john paul had a raw sort of freak of nature charisma that took the world by storm. benedict has always been a bit more of an acquired taste. widely admired for the keenness of his intellect. and when i've covered his foreign trips, what's interesting is that he often plays best as a cultural critic. a...
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paul and who was here with me in rome when we covered the death of john paul. and carl, it is good to see you. and i'm wondering just about your general reaction now, eight years later, when many people thought this would be a placeholder pope, what are your thoughts today? >> i think that it was worse than a placeholder pope. that the church fell into a kind of morass because of its internal problems and the failure to modernize its institutions, the conclave that elected benedict probably could have seen this coming, it didn't. but the truly revolutionary act of this papacy is the resignation of benedict while he's still somewhat able. it breaks tradition and it's an extraordinary and brave act that perhaps will enable the next conclave to think differently about the future of the church. and i started doing some thinking and going back and looking at modern history of the church last night. maybe, they're always talking, the cardinals, about hoe the holy spirit may move them. maybe it's time for a new vatican council, such as pope john xxiii called in the mi
paul and who was here with me in rome when we covered the death of john paul. and carl, it is good to see you. and i'm wondering just about your general reaction now, eight years later, when many people thought this would be a placeholder pope, what are your thoughts today? >> i think that it was worse than a placeholder pope. that the church fell into a kind of morass because of its internal problems and the failure to modernize its institutions, the conclave that elected benedict...
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although, many of us remember the pictures of john paul -- pope john paul ii who was extremely old and ill when he died. the supposition here is that pope benedict doesn't want to see himself in the same position we saw pope john paul ii. there may be some reasons regarding pope benedict's health that we are aware of at this time. but certainly we have seen it pulled benedick grow increasingly tired -- pope benedick xvi grow increasingly tired. we have seen him use a way of moving up the basilica of a moving platform because he was too tired during those ceremonies to actually walk down the i yelled up to the altar. -- down the aise up to the altar. these all decisions that were taken not to tire the pope particularly over christmas. which is one of the busiest times in the pope's schedule. easter is coming up and that is also a very busy time for pope benedict. he has obviously decided this is too much of a heavy schedule for him. and he will in fact resign, as a said, on february 28. it remains to be seen what may happen after that and who will be pulled for the very important easter
although, many of us remember the pictures of john paul -- pope john paul ii who was extremely old and ill when he died. the supposition here is that pope benedict doesn't want to see himself in the same position we saw pope john paul ii. there may be some reasons regarding pope benedict's health that we are aware of at this time. but certainly we have seen it pulled benedick grow increasingly tired -- pope benedick xvi grow increasingly tired. we have seen him use a way of moving up the...
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john paul ii made a conscience decision to die in public. not to say look at me, look at me conforming myself to the passion and death and resurrection of jesus christ. benedict xvi has made a decision that the church needs something that he cannot give so he should get out of the way. he should retire into the background. that, as ann just indicated and liz mentioned and i mentioned and he mentioned, is another way to bear the cross of christ. and i think it was a very strikingly personal last statement to the church. i'm not leaving you. and thank you for not leaving me. >> we heard the loud applause there, the pope was delivering the message in spanish, the church has seen growth in latin america, seen growth in africa, leading to questions, father, about his success so, whether it could be someone who is from africa, from latin america, maybe even dare we say, north america. >> could well be. the church certainly has shifted, as you say, it's suffering in western europe, yet there are 61 cardinals from europe. the college of cardinals th
john paul ii made a conscience decision to die in public. not to say look at me, look at me conforming myself to the passion and death and resurrection of jesus christ. benedict xvi has made a decision that the church needs something that he cannot give so he should get out of the way. he should retire into the background. that, as ann just indicated and liz mentioned and i mentioned and he mentioned, is another way to bear the cross of christ. and i think it was a very strikingly personal last...
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paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of his life. benedict xvi, while i think certainly ahe certainly admiring john paul, thinks that's not the path that every pope takes. some of the difficulties the vatican faced in recent years. internal disarray relating to the leaked crisis. the damage imposed upon the public image of the church by the sex abuse scandals and so on, it's clear that that has taken a toll on benedict xvi, he has struggled with that personally and it may well be that the people who have seen the cumulative effect of that, that the church needs a new lease on life and a fresh
paul. >> pope john paul ii. >> yes, of course. the long twilight of john paul, his struggle with age and parkinson's disease, lingering effect of the 1981 assassination attempt are all played out in full public view, and john paul decided to use his illness and decline in a way as a teaching moment, that -- to show the world you can still be of value, still play an important role while being ill, suffering, and so on. that was john paul's particular way of handling the twilight of...
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>> well, i think he sees the papacy very much in continuity of john paul ii. they were both men of the council. they were at vatican 2 and contributed and i think both saw an attempt to interpret vatican 2 properly. i would say that's the major contribution of pope benedict. he wanted to read vatican 2 as a an evangelical council, a council to get the message of the faith out to the wider world and i think in koont knewty with john paul and that's probably the major legacy. >> father, this will kick off sort of the ultimate insider political battle if you will. i can think of nothing less than transparent of the election. it's a cardinal sin to discuss it an they're told i guess going to hell to talk about what happens in that room. >> wow. >> i wonder if you could just take for sort of the laymen and women out there for the process. what is going to unfold in the week and months ahead to elect a new pope? >> of course, this is very unusual. we are not dealing with the death of a pope followed by a period of mourning and a number offer is moans and masses that
>> well, i think he sees the papacy very much in continuity of john paul ii. they were both men of the council. they were at vatican 2 and contributed and i think both saw an attempt to interpret vatican 2 properly. i would say that's the major contribution of pope benedict. he wanted to read vatican 2 as a an evangelical council, a council to get the message of the faith out to the wider world and i think in koont knewty with john paul and that's probably the major legacy. >>...
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will he be on the order of a john the xxiii, will it be a john paul ii who knew how to deal geo politically with the modern world in terms of poland and the communist world at the same time dealing with the internal problems of the church. and yet, we're also seeing ancient tradition here. as well as an ancient pope who was unable to perform as he had hoped. >> we see that final wave, it seems, from pope benedict and those who have been so close to him over the eight years of his papacy and the applause by, again, members of his household and he is giving them his blessing and you see on his right hand, the fisherman's ring, it is cast for each and every pope, and when they cease to be pope, as he will at 2:00 this afternoon eastern time, and you see that traditional kissing of the ring, it will be taken and a silver hammer will be taken to it and it will be destroyed because that is also the papal seal. so this extraordinary moment in history, using the former joseph ratzinger who will be within hours be pope emeritus, getting into the car for this short ride to the helipad leaving the gro
will he be on the order of a john the xxiii, will it be a john paul ii who knew how to deal geo politically with the modern world in terms of poland and the communist world at the same time dealing with the internal problems of the church. and yet, we're also seeing ancient tradition here. as well as an ancient pope who was unable to perform as he had hoped. >> we see that final wave, it seems, from pope benedict and those who have been so close to him over the eight years of his papacy...
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that was the theme of john paul ii. it's the theme of benedict xvi, and it's going to be a very interesting ride into the rest of the 21st century. >> thank you for your wisdom, and john garvey, thank you for joining us today. we really appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >> and looking ahead to the next 24 hours, the president planning to pivot back to the economy in tomorrow night's state of the yoon. we'll get a preview from the man who knows exactly what's going on behind the scenes at the white house. right away former white house communications director, speechwriter, don bair joining us next. this is $100,000. we asked total strangers to watch it for us. thank you so much. i appreciate it. i'll be right back. they didn't take a dime. how much in fees does your bank take to watch your money? if your bank takes more money than a stranger, you need an ally. ally bank. your money needs an ally. [ female announcer ] some people like to pretend a flood could never happen to them. and that their homeowners insuranc
that was the theme of john paul ii. it's the theme of benedict xvi, and it's going to be a very interesting ride into the rest of the 21st century. >> thank you for your wisdom, and john garvey, thank you for joining us today. we really appreciate that. >> thank you very much. >> and looking ahead to the next 24 hours, the president planning to pivot back to the economy in tomorrow night's state of the yoon. we'll get a preview from the man who knows exactly what's going on...
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pope john paul ii said i need you with me. of course he did. he listened to john paul. so he's been well aware of his own fragility of his health for a while. >> reporter: and you know, the timing is also rather surprising. it is two days before ash wednesday, and the start of lent, a very holy day for catholics. the cardinal said in facts he's sure people around him knew that this was going to happen. and put a transition team in place. the cardinal says a conclave will take a month. but right now all of that timing is being worked out. suzanne. >> all right. deb, thank you. i appreciate it. >>> the former navy s.e.a.l. who reportedly fired the shot that killed osama bin laden is said to be furious with the u.s. military. he has no pension or medical insurance, and according to an investigative piece in esquire magazine called the man who shot and killed osama bin laden, the shooter who is not named, he told a friend, this is a quote here, he says if i get killed on this next deployment. i know my family will be taken care of. but if i come back and retire, i won't hav
pope john paul ii said i need you with me. of course he did. he listened to john paul. so he's been well aware of his own fragility of his health for a while. >> reporter: and you know, the timing is also rather surprising. it is two days before ash wednesday, and the start of lent, a very holy day for catholics. the cardinal said in facts he's sure people around him knew that this was going to happen. and put a transition team in place. the cardinal says a conclave will take a month. but...
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the challenges of pope john paul's suffering. and the way that perhaps the church might have struggled around him because of his own limitations. i think it's been visible to see the pope's weakness has been more and more evident when you see him at mass, at christmas masses this past christmas and some of the other major events, he sounded weaker and weaker. he's moving more and more frailly. i think it's a real sign of courage that he recognizes that the job is bigger than he is. as for the timing, this was all his own discernment and his own heart. as john allen just said, no one saw this coming. >> woodruff: sister christine, what about you? how did you read this given how unprecedented it is? >> well, i think it is very unprecedented. i agree with the professor. i think that... i don't know how he could have lived through the waning days of pope john paul ii's papacy and not been aware of how difficult it would be to continue vatican business. so we give pope benedict a lot of credit for the courage of stepping down. the oth
the challenges of pope john paul's suffering. and the way that perhaps the church might have struggled around him because of his own limitations. i think it's been visible to see the pope's weakness has been more and more evident when you see him at mass, at christmas masses this past christmas and some of the other major events, he sounded weaker and weaker. he's moving more and more frailly. i think it's a real sign of courage that he recognizes that the job is bigger than he is. as for the...
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john paul said no, i need you here. pope john paul ii died and then he became pope. benedict is a far shyer man, he's a gentle man, he's far more than intellectual. he never sucked in the oxygen of the crowd. he at times, ren sant. since he announced his abdication, i have been struck by how much he relieved he looks. he actually ad lib when he got up there. when i looked at his prepared text. heed a lib an aline, people say that the church is declining but i see the church as alive, because that crowd was filled with enthusiasm and energy yesterday. you know, you have seen when he met with some priests here in rome about a week ago, he was supposed to deliver a speech about the second vatican -- vatican ii, he was there at the time, that happened 50 years ago. he said no, i can't do that because of my advanced age. 85 has become his excuse to be more casual if you will and he said, no, i'll sit here and chat with you. he talked with 46 minutes without a note about what went on 50 years ago. so, clearly, his mind and those who know him and those who read his writings
john paul said no, i need you here. pope john paul ii died and then he became pope. benedict is a far shyer man, he's a gentle man, he's far more than intellectual. he never sucked in the oxygen of the crowd. he at times, ren sant. since he announced his abdication, i have been struck by how much he relieved he looks. he actually ad lib when he got up there. when i looked at his prepared text. heed a lib an aline, people say that the church is declining but i see the church as alive, because...
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i covered both john paul 2 rii benedict xvi. john paul would wear his heart on the sleeve. he talked about his mind and his heart all the time. benedict as always been much more reluctant to get that glimpse of what's going on inside. i think it's part of the man's humility, but he wanted to to keep himself out of the story. today however he set that normal reserve aside and he gave us a remarkable look at what was in his mind and his heart as he reached this momentous decision. >> and i can't help but think of all the things that he obliquely referred to, and when he said it was time for a more vigorous both physically and mentally person to carry this church into the future and also to deal with the things that he referred to in his speech. you were talking just this week to a journalist who has written all about the vatican and who heard the tales right from the butler. >> one of the things that he says in his book is that he felt that the pope was surrounded by people who were trying for thwart him actively or accidentally, trying to thwart the kind of reform efforts he
i covered both john paul 2 rii benedict xvi. john paul would wear his heart on the sleeve. he talked about his mind and his heart all the time. benedict as always been much more reluctant to get that glimpse of what's going on inside. i think it's part of the man's humility, but he wanted to to keep himself out of the story. today however he set that normal reserve aside and he gave us a remarkable look at what was in his mind and his heart as he reached this momentous decision. >> and i...
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when we were here in 2005, for the death of john paul ii, we had been hearing for years about child sex abuse. for a long time they thought it was just an american problem that was fuel bid the american media. you have seen a great change in attitude, i think from 2005 to 2013. they know there are problems in the church, they know they must be addressed and you can't just blame it on the media anymore. they have to take responsibility because they are losing particularly in western europe, an the u.s., they are losing the core of their church and they need to get it back and they need to find a man who can communicate to the younger generation, i spoke to cardinal donald whirl yesterday as the archbishop of washington, d.c., who said we need to find someone who can package our message, repackage our message to make it resonate with younger catholics today and that's going to be a big challenge. >> pope benedict has spoken just yesterday about the difficulties. he said there were many good days of sunshine, but stormy waters sometimes as if god were sleeping and certainly the sex abuse c
when we were here in 2005, for the death of john paul ii, we had been hearing for years about child sex abuse. for a long time they thought it was just an american problem that was fuel bid the american media. you have seen a great change in attitude, i think from 2005 to 2013. they know there are problems in the church, they know they must be addressed and you can't just blame it on the media anymore. they have to take responsibility because they are losing particularly in western europe, an...
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the election of john paul roim -- i overnight. he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say. >> thank you, eric. >> libyans, thousands of therm marking the uprising that toppled gad gad. many are sporting flaggings on their cars and balloons and featuring the national colors. the new leader calling for unity in the nation. but the new libyan central government has little authority beyond the capitol of tripoli. the country is fractured. there are militia. >> explosion in baghdad this morning. 28 people were killed and dozens more wounded . here you can see burned out hulkings was -- buildings and cars. sunday is the beginni of the work day there. >> the national gun debate rages on and new quis of a potential fall out. they are halting production in response to sweeping gun laws. adam houseley is following this from los angele
the election of john paul roim -- i overnight. he was prayerful and they picked him almost automatically and stame with pope john paul ii. you - pope benedict. i don't think we can tell at this point. >> monsingor, always good to see you and we'll pull for a longhornser or north american as you say. >> thank you, eric. >> libyans, thousands of therm marking the uprising that toppled gad gad. many are sporting flaggings on their cars and balloons and featuring the national...
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he was 5 years old, older now than when his predecessor pope john paul passed away. that is to be taken into consideration. some of the are cardinals here in the united states are reacting. we heard from cardinal timothy dolan in new york, he was elevated to that office by pope benedict. let's hear what he had to say. >> i would presume his esteem for the office as the successor of st. peter and the chief pastor of the (audio difficulty) still to come when 9news continues we will have new developments in the search for a rogue california cop accused of killing outside a wave >>> a 14-year-old is being charged as an adult in the murder of his seven-month-old sister. police say baby larissa was left from the care of her brother jonathan a aguilera. the teenager admitted covering her nose and her mouth in order to stop her from crying. he is due in court for a bond hearing this afternoon. >>> a $11 million reward is now being offered for help to capture a former los angeles police officer wanted for murder. christopher dorner is accused of killing three people to avenge
he was 5 years old, older now than when his predecessor pope john paul passed away. that is to be taken into consideration. some of the are cardinals here in the united states are reacting. we heard from cardinal timothy dolan in new york, he was elevated to that office by pope benedict. let's hear what he had to say. >> i would presume his esteem for the office as the successor of st. peter and the chief pastor of the (audio difficulty) still to come when 9news continues we will have new...
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but with john paul ii, there years people thought any minute we have to plan for the future. they are talking about a short amount of time. maybe it will be just weeks before they have a new gathering of all of the cardinals in order to vote in a new pope. but all the maneuvering that had been going on before, all that kind of thing, there does not seem to be a front runner of the moment. it really is wide open. >> thank you very much for coming in. thank you. stay with us on bbc world news. more on our breaking news. pope benedict xvi is to resign at the end of the month. the official in charge of india 's massive religious festival has announced he will resign the day after a stampede killed at least 36 people. he said he took a moral responsibility for the deaths of which happened when a foot bridge collapsed at a railway station. most of the victims are said to be women. some 30 million programs have been bathing in the river. our correspondent is there. >> the streets are overflowing -- overflowing with people. hindu children trying to return home. you can see how it eve
but with john paul ii, there years people thought any minute we have to plan for the future. they are talking about a short amount of time. maybe it will be just weeks before they have a new gathering of all of the cardinals in order to vote in a new pope. but all the maneuvering that had been going on before, all that kind of thing, there does not seem to be a front runner of the moment. it really is wide open. >> thank you very much for coming in. thank you. stay with us on bbc world...
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it was very difficult to imagine another pope after pope john paul. they needed somebody to be different. i think he have the strength and the character to do that. >> he certainly have the intellect. the catholic church is declining in numbers in europe and america. it is growing in africa and latin america. is it time for a pontiff from outside europe? >> it is certainly possible. just before being elected pope, he thought that the time might be drawing close for a pulp from another part of the world. i would say possible. there are strong european candidates. the college of cardenals is an immense group of talent. there are strong candidates from south america, africa, and the far east. pope benedict has given us a great legacy of courage preaching the gospel. just last week he was speaking at one of the seminary's in rome. he warned students against a false optimism. the idea that everything is right with the church. he said, no, there is sin. he also warned against a false pessimism, that christianity is dying. he said that the church is always r
it was very difficult to imagine another pope after pope john paul. they needed somebody to be different. i think he have the strength and the character to do that. >> he certainly have the intellect. the catholic church is declining in numbers in europe and america. it is growing in africa and latin america. is it time for a pontiff from outside europe? >> it is certainly possible. just before being elected pope, he thought that the time might be drawing close for a pulp from...
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. >> seeing a german succeed pope john paul ii was a victory for our country. in benedick's ministry, they combine high philosophical teaching with a straight forward manner of speaking and humanitarian kindness. chancellor merkel also commented on benedict's decision expressing understanding or his motivations. she praised him as saying that, as pope, he committed himself to interfaith dialogue. >> restrengthen the ties to the eastern orthodox churches. he reached out to jews and muslims. . xvi is and will remain one of the greatest religious figures of our time. >> i cannot imagine this. a pope is elected to serve until the end of his life. it is a decision that will perhaps make room for younger generation to take office. >> for the most part, his move received strong support from the german capital. >> for more, we're joined now by our religious affairs correspondent. john, you have and our correspondent during the entire time of his role. did the news, as a surprise? >> not entirely, sabrina. 10 years ago, he said in public that he thought it was appropria
. >> seeing a german succeed pope john paul ii was a victory for our country. in benedick's ministry, they combine high philosophical teaching with a straight forward manner of speaking and humanitarian kindness. chancellor merkel also commented on benedict's decision expressing understanding or his motivations. she praised him as saying that, as pope, he committed himself to interfaith dialogue. >> restrengthen the ties to the eastern orthodox churches. he reached out to jews and...
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and we know that pope john paul was very ill -- >> yes, he was. >> towards the end. so, why this unprecedent ed in modern times? >> we've known it's always been a possibility. they would ask about that, especially, like you mentioned in the days of blessed john paul ii. was it a probability, no. but now, the ice might be broken. and in the future, it might become not as startling. >> what happens when you have a former pope? >> i'm wondering myself. i'm wondering. we haven't been through this in 600 years. so, i think he's going -- let me get to my books, let me get back to my piano. he's going to be saying. let me concentrate on my writing. he's probably going to relish the transition. >> would you like to see an african? would you like to see a south american? >> yes. and i think those are very probable. to think that maybe, maybe the college of card nainals feel th holy spirit is directing them to choose from somewhere else, i think so. >> what are the odds of a north american? and you were asked, what about you? >> is this abc news or comedy central? you are -- >
and we know that pope john paul was very ill -- >> yes, he was. >> towards the end. so, why this unprecedent ed in modern times? >> we've known it's always been a possibility. they would ask about that, especially, like you mentioned in the days of blessed john paul ii. was it a probability, no. but now, the ice might be broken. and in the future, it might become not as startling. >> what happens when you have a former pope? >> i'm wondering myself. i'm wondering....
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the sex scandal came to light under pope john paul ii. they say now look for youth, a conservative vision and most likely, a european. >> the numbers are really stacked toward the europeans. unless there's some kind of inspirational moment where someone kind of just steps out of the pack -- by that i mean someone who speaks languages, knows the global world, it's a very difficult job description. >> reporter: but maybe not difficult for cardinal natural olay, a french canadian. >> there is a cardinal mark olay, who is now currently the head of the office of bishops in rome. so we could have a canadian. >> reporter: 119 cardinals will vote in the upcoming conclave to select the new pope, most of whom were appointed by pope benedict xvi and pope john paul. both, staunch conservatives, so expect a conservative voice to be chosen. something young catholics accept. >> i feel like moderate is probably fine. i'm a card-carrying liberal like for sure, but like -- >> but you don't think the church needs to go that direction? >> well, i don't know
the sex scandal came to light under pope john paul ii. they say now look for youth, a conservative vision and most likely, a european. >> the numbers are really stacked toward the europeans. unless there's some kind of inspirational moment where someone kind of just steps out of the pack -- by that i mean someone who speaks languages, knows the global world, it's a very difficult job description. >> reporter: but maybe not difficult for cardinal natural olay, a french canadian....
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ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that we are living through a day of enormous shock here in rome. not so much the pope benedict xvi chose to resign. he signaled two years ago that he would be open to doing that, but the fact that we had absolutely no indication this was coming today. precisely because of that, therefore, there are some enormous unanswered questions about how all of this is going to play out. i suppose the biggest questions would be, "a," what will the role of a retired pope be? will he continue to play any kind of public role? will he continue to exercise any influence on the future direction
ratzinger, was very keenly aware of what happened to pope john paul ii. he talked to people about how his demise seemed somewhat of a dishonorable end to his papacy. he had in his mind already what type of glorious exit, to use the phrase, he may want in store for him. let's get some perspective as to what is coming out of the vatican as to why this is happening, what it means. john allen, our senior vatican analyst, joins us now. what do we know, john? >> reporter: what we know is that...
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he took over after the death of pope john paul ii. will turn 86 in april, so he is getting a little older. we expect a news conference will vatican in just a moments. we are waiting for more of information. they are setting the stage now conference to elect a pope before the end of march. whens just about the time world willround the easter.rating we do hope to get more information in a couple minutes breaking news story from rome.as in back to you. thank you so much. has made his mark, into social media with twitter accounts. he personally tweeted over the few months. a lot of questions with not many answers yet, but we hope to hear from the vatican. everything that's being latin and isin being translated. we will share it with you when it.et >> there's no clear successor. when pope benedict was installed pope, he was a leading contender. as of now, they don't know who be.next one will >> the vatican pledges they will work very quickly to make sure elected.a successor not surprisingly, las vegas and taking gambling the successor who
he took over after the death of pope john paul ii. will turn 86 in april, so he is getting a little older. we expect a news conference will vatican in just a moments. we are waiting for more of information. they are setting the stage now conference to elect a pope before the end of march. whens just about the time world willround the easter.rating we do hope to get more information in a couple minutes breaking news story from rome.as in back to you. thank you so much. has made his mark, into...
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a relative enigma compared to john paul ii, of course. an old fashioned man in modern times. and now the question for catholics and their church becomes what next. nbc's anne thompson is here with us, with part of that story. anne, good evening. >> good evening, brian. we're in such uncharted territory, that the vatican doesn't even know how pope benedict will be addressed after february 28th. when a pope dies, the conclave to elect his successor begins 15 days after his death. but now when it will start is just one of many mysteries in the wake of today's startling news. ♪ the cardinals, the men who will elect benedict's successor, were as surprised as the people in the pews. new york's cardinal timothy dolan on the "today" show. >> i'm as startled as the rest of you and anxious to find out exactly what's going on. >> reporter: and like the nation's cardinals, the faithful have many questions. >> maybe he's trying to do what's best for us as the church and he wants us to be led by, you know, a strong person who is of sound mind and body. >> reporter: some express the hope
a relative enigma compared to john paul ii, of course. an old fashioned man in modern times. and now the question for catholics and their church becomes what next. nbc's anne thompson is here with us, with part of that story. anne, good evening. >> good evening, brian. we're in such uncharted territory, that the vatican doesn't even know how pope benedict will be addressed after february 28th. when a pope dies, the conclave to elect his successor begins 15 days after his death. but now...
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6:00 was in not very good shape at all, john paul -- john paul xxiii, and pius, a number of them ended their reigns in ill health. maybe u.s. a better service to the church, one feels one can no longer fulfill his duties as benedict xvi said. perhaps it's better for the church to step down voluntarily. rather than to wait until death. >> back in 1989 and 1994, john paul ii had prepared we know to resign, if, in fact, he had some sort of condition or disease that would keep him from fulfilling his ministry, we have learned that the late pope's the person in charge of his affairs. incredibly unusualnusual. right to dan lothian at the white house. did they have a close relationship. a typical relationship that you would have between a pope and world leader? >> i think it can be described as a respectful relationship, and the two have met, on one time face to face as far as we're aware, and back in 2009, overseas to agana and moscow, met face to face for 25 minutes, talked about billions of dollars in aid to developing countries and much of their discussion, food aid and discussion centere
6:00 was in not very good shape at all, john paul -- john paul xxiii, and pius, a number of them ended their reigns in ill health. maybe u.s. a better service to the church, one feels one can no longer fulfill his duties as benedict xvi said. perhaps it's better for the church to step down voluntarily. rather than to wait until death. >> back in 1989 and 1994, john paul ii had prepared we know to resign, if, in fact, he had some sort of condition or disease that would keep him from...
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we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks like an 85-year-old man, and you realize the stress that must have been on him, certainly in the run-up to this and the decision that he finally decided to make. but just the wear and tear of preparing. we know that yesterday he had something of a down day. there's packing to be done. there are papers to be gone through. there are decisions to be made. and he will be going to castel gandolfo, which is the summer residence of the pope, where he will stay until a more permanent residence is finished. they have been doing renovations on the old monastery on the grounds of the vatican. he's someone, liz, who really -- it's not a job that he can go home at 5:00, and he puts his little time card in, and it ends. this is a man who for the last eight years, when most people would want to be retiring
we've become accustomed to it with john paul and with benedict. now it's pretty much expected of him. i think that's right what liz said about him, the father quality of the pope. that's a great advantage to have. >> and as you also look at him -- and he looks like an 85-year-old man, and you realize the stress that must have been on him, certainly in the run-up to this and the decision that he finally decided to make. but just the wear and tear of preparing. we know that yesterday he had...
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one, john paul ii was made pope at a very young age relatively speaking. and pope benedict, 85, already past the normal retirement age of a priest being elected at 78 years old. we're going to have lots of time to talk about who will be the next pope and what he's going to look like, where he's going to be coming from, what his age will be. but this is a time that is certainly an unforgettable moment in the history of the church. >>brian: it's hard to imagine a cardinal with more charisma and presence than the one we have here, cardinal dolan. do you think he's a legitimate contender? >> you know, he would respond, would my mother think so? he is such a likable, loving, good, holy man. i don't really know. but he'll be there putting his vote in to the next pope. >>steve: we just got a statement. this is what the pope said earlier today in latin. it's been translated. after having repeatedly examined my conscience before god, i have come to the certainty that my strengths due to an advantage are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the petrine minist
one, john paul ii was made pope at a very young age relatively speaking. and pope benedict, 85, already past the normal retirement age of a priest being elected at 78 years old. we're going to have lots of time to talk about who will be the next pope and what he's going to look like, where he's going to be coming from, what his age will be. but this is a time that is certainly an unforgettable moment in the history of the church. >>brian: it's hard to imagine a cardinal with more charisma...
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the sex scandal involving priests came to light under john paul ii. father michael russo says now look for youth, a conservative vision, and most likely, a european. >> the numbers are really stacked toward the europeans. unless there's some kind of inspirational moment where someone from another part of the world steps out of the pack, but that, i mean someone who speaks languages and knows the global world, that's a difficult job description. >> maybe not difficult for cardinal, mark olay, a worldly french canadian. >> may have a north american pope. the former archbishop ofy quebec. has a will the of the credentials you would look for in a pope. we could have a canadian. >> 119 cardinals will vote in the upcoming conclave to select a new pope, most of whom were appointed by pope john paul. both religious conservatives, so expect a conservative voice to be chosen. something young catholics accept. >> i feel like moderate is fine. i'm a card carrying liberal. but -- >> you don't think the church needs to go that direction? >> i don't know if people a
the sex scandal involving priests came to light under john paul ii. father michael russo says now look for youth, a conservative vision, and most likely, a european. >> the numbers are really stacked toward the europeans. unless there's some kind of inspirational moment where someone from another part of the world steps out of the pack, but that, i mean someone who speaks languages and knows the global world, that's a difficult job description. >> maybe not difficult for cardinal,...